A question for FIEC?
It’s been too long since I’ve baited FIEC.
John Stevens, Andy Patterson, Trev Archer and Richard
Underwood are the four wise men of FIEC. All four were local pastors doing a
great job and got promotion to become directors of FIEC (come on lads you know
I’m smiling!). FIEC has undergone something of a revolution and are fond of
telling us lots about it – here, here, here and here!
FIEC are part of Affinity so it’s been great to get to know
John Stevens and Richard Underwood through that. Trev Archer is very good value.
The only one of the four I don’t know is Andy Patterson. Lots of good things
seem to be going on and it’s full steam ahead.
My concern is that FIEC is a Baptist independent group of
churches which in theory would like to welcome paedo Baptists but are not
being realistic about the problem this
causes.
John Stevens writes the below………
”I am keen to see a renewal in the UK of paedo-baptist independency.
FIEC was founded on a non-sectarian basis to embrace churches irrespective of
their position regarding baptism, and we were never meant to be a Baptist
association. Independent paedo-baptist churches were devastated by liberalism
in the 20th Century, leading to the massive decline of congregationalism,
accompanied by the rise of conservative evangelical Anglicanism which provided
a home for some. As the Anglican church becomes less conducive for conservative
evangelicals there is a need for new independent paedo-baptist churches to be
established, and also for existing independent Baptist churches to be able to
welcome others, including perhaps gifted gospel ministers, who in conscience
hold to paedo-baptist convictions for biblical reasons. It would be a tragedy
if FIEC were unable to fulfil its historical goal of uniting gospel churches
regardless of their convictions on the practice of baptism. According to our
founder, E J Poole-Connor, the defining characteristic of an “Independent
Evangelical Church”, was its willingness to welcome into membership all those
who loved the Lord irrespective of their position on secondary matters. ”
The question I have is, ‘Is there a congregation within the FIEC in which
someone who is a conscientious believer in infant Baptism could pastor?’ They would preach on it, would
refuse to do dedications and seek to instruct parents in his congregation that
they should baptise children? I think if the four directors were honest they would say those
congregations don’t exist. I realise there are some Congregational churches
where there are Paedo Baptistic ministers but whether they would be willing to
preach on it and refuse dedications I somehow doubt.
The myth of a dual practice church in reality doesn’t exist.
The two views can be held within a congregation but not in leadership. I can
imagine there will be emails to the contrary but I would want to ask ‘Can
consistent Baptists put up with a consistent Paedo Baptist as their minister,
preaching, proclaiming it, refusing to do dedications and encouraging parents
to baptise their children? ‘
There is an alternative route and that is to say this is a
secondary issue and it doesn’t matter. Heavyweights in both corners of the ring
disagree; the times are too desperate so let’s not really talk about it. I
believe that way is called conservative evangelical Anglicanism.
Ok, I think I’ve offended enough people. Come FIEC
directors, what’s the name of the church where you can be a consistent Infant
Baptist in your affiliation?
